NS Cliches: Rebooted

by **Aureumterra III** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:54 pm

Valentine Z wrote:I do love that most/all of the marriage RPs are for princes and princesses. I mean, you can definitely try doing a Tinder here, while still following the PG-13 rule. Don't quote me on this, though!

A MT blind date between a recently inaugurated President and a Prime Minister of two different countries, come on.

Political marriages are rarely if ever based on romance, so it adds a whole new “dimension” in

by **Dayganistan** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 12:54 pm

Valentine Z wrote:I do love that most/all of the marriage RPs are for princes and princesses. I mean, you can definitely try doing a Tinder here, while still following the PG-13 rule. Don't quote me on this, though!

A MT blind date between a recently inaugurated President and a Prime Minister of two different countries, come on.

I kind of want to see this attempted now. Although I have a feeling it would attract the certain young man who cannot stop spamming zero effort marriage RPs.

by **South Americanastan** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 4:49 pm

Dayganistan wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I do love that most/all of the marriage RPs are for princes and princesses. I mean, you can definitely try doing a Tinder here, while still following the PG-13 rule. Don't quote me on this, though!

A MT blind date between a recently inaugurated President and a Prime Minister of two different countries, come on.

I kind of want to see this attempted now. Although I have a feeling it would attract the certain young man who cannot stop spamming zero effort marriage RPs.

Yes, a very certain young man.

I feel like a Tinder would probably spiral out of control, with stuff getting more and more... not PG-13. It would be cool to see someone try it though, if they could rein it in.

by **Aikoland** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:05 pm

Qhevak wrote:
Zeloria wrote:So we are always talking about summerposters here. That kinda makes me wonder if winterposters exists. Or what about autumn-posters and spring-posters?

Winterposters would be kids in the southern hemisphere/on Christmas break in the north.

Yeah and wintertime trolls definitely do exist but they're not a meme because, well, IDK how it works in other countries but here in the States, winter break is usually only like two weeks for Christmas and New Year's.

It's not like summertime where the punk kids are out of school for a couple of months.

by **The Alkdorian Empire** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:09 pm

The Free Munster League wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I do love that most/all of the marriage RPs are for princes and princesses. I mean, you can definitely try doing a Tinder here, while still following the PG-13 rule. Don't quote me on this, though!

A MT blind date between a recently inaugurated President and a Prime Minister of two different countries, come on.

Princes and princesses had practical reasons, because the heir would be the heir of BOTH countries/regions. Nowadays there's less of a reason to inbreed. Of course, I'm always interested in seeing Putin and Biden going on a blind date, adopting a child, and restablish the Kingdom of Rusamerica.

Why, why did you allow that could out of your head? I didn't want to hear it. Nor see it! PAAAAIIINNNN!!!!

by **Atheris** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:19 pm

The Alkdorian Empire wrote:
The Free Munster League wrote:Princes and princesses had practical reasons, because the heir would be the heir of BOTH countries/regions. Nowadays there's less of a reason to inbreed. Of course, I'm always interested in seeing Putin and Biden going on a blind date, adopting a child, and restablish the Kingdom of Rusamerica.

Why, why did you allow that could out of your head? I didn't want to hear it. Nor see it! PAAAAIIINNNN!!!!

fanfiction veterans vs people who just made an ao3 account

edit: you know, there's actual lenin x trotsky fanfiction out there
i can't remember if it's 18+ or not unfortunately but i don't think it is? i don't wanna risk it, though

by **Comerciante** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:28 pm

Eh not nearly as based as Napoleon x Alexander.

by **Northern Ateria** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:26 pm

Comerciante wrote:Eh not nearly as based as Napoleon x Alexander.

Please, Stop.

Why can’t these guys just write partners for their virgin characters instead of, y’know, borderline hornyposting?

by **Cavirfi** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:27 pm

Aureumterra III wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:I do love that most/all of the marriage RPs are for princes and princesses. I mean, you can definitely try doing a Tinder here, while still following the PG-13 rule. Don't quote me on this, though!

A MT blind date between a recently inaugurated President and a Prime Minister of two different countries, come on.

Political marriages are rarely if ever based on romance, so it adds a whole new “dimension” in

"Wait the marriages are all about diplomacy?"

"*unlocks trigger* Always has been!"

by **Fahran** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:33 pm

Northern Ateria wrote:Please, Stop.

Why can’t these guys just write partners for their virgin characters instead of, y’know, borderline hornyposting?

The main issue is intent here, I believe. They're often not trying to tell a story that can stand on its own merit. They're trying to write low-effort erotica. Or else they just don't know the difference between the two. But, anyway, I digress.

by **Northern Ateria** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 7:50 pm

Fahran wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Please, Stop.

Why can’t these guys just write partners for their virgin characters instead of, y’know, borderline hornyposting?

The main issue is intent here, I believe. They're often not trying to tell a story that can stand on its own merit. They're trying to write low-effort erotica. Or else they just don't know the difference between the two. But, anyway, I digress.

Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

12 March 2022

Northern Ateria wrote:
Fahran wrote:The main issue is intent here, I believe. They're often not trying to tell a story that can stand on its own merit. They're trying to write low-effort erotica. Or else they just don't know the difference between the two. But, anyway, I digress.

Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

They're probably fulfilling Rule 34 elsewhere, but obviously they can't link that because of site rules.

Rule 34 scares me.

by **Legacy Ark** » Sun Jun 20, 2021 9:52 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

They're probably fulfilling Rule 34 elsewhere, but obviously they can't link that because of site rules.

Rule 34 scares me.

Unless anyone here wants to scar their childhood memories of Roo from Winnie the Pooh, I strongly advise avoiding that site at all costs.

by **Aikoland** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:41 am

Northern Ateria wrote:
Fahran wrote:The main issue is intent here, I believe. They're often not trying to tell a story that can stand on its own merit. They're trying to write low-effort erotica. Or else they just don't know the difference between the two. But, anyway, I digress.

Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

You want genuine depressing go to the r/waifuism subreddit.

Or actually maybe don't because I seriously think a lot of the people on that subreddit have genuine mental issues. Cause r/waifuism isn't some satire sub where you talk about your fave animu girls or whatever, it's full of people who genuinely believe they're in relationships with cartoon characters (and I say cartoon characters because, contrary to the sub name, it's not limited to anime girls, it can be any cartoon character). Saw a post on their where the OP seriously compared waifuism to a religion and insisted that they worship their waifu like Christians worship God, another post was someone worrying that they 'weren't good enough' for their SO (again, their 'SO' being a literal cartoon character), etc.

It's not cringe or embarrassing, it's just sad and depressing. It's fine to like fictional characters, I think we all do, and there's no denying that there are cartoon characters designed to be attractive/sexy, but it's another thing to delude yourself into believing you're actually in a relationship with a cartoon.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 7:49 am

Aikoland wrote:snip

As a person who had Asuka as my waifu since 2018 I disagree that most of us think of our waifus as some sort of living objects and/or objects of worship. I agree that most of the people on this site (including me) suffer from mental, psychological and relationship issues.
Most of us delude into this shit because of us giving up any hope of having a functional relationship in real life. In some case because of looks in others because of socioeconomical status in my case out of pure apathy and defeatism.
If you want to see what disdain looks like

by **South Americanastan** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:15 am

Northern Ateria wrote:
Fahran wrote:The main issue is intent here, I believe. They're often not trying to tell a story that can stand on its own merit. They're trying to write low-effort erotica. Or else they just don't know the difference between the two. But, anyway, I digress.

Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

Rule 34 of the internet: If it exists…

Nationstates is, unfortunately, not exempt from that rule.

by **Atheris** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:42 am

South Americanastan wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

Rule 34 of the internet: If it exists…

Nationstates is, unfortunately, not exempt from that rule.

by **Brettenwald** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:48 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Aikoland wrote:snip

As a person who had Asuka as my waifu since 2018 I disagree that most of us think of our waifus as some sort of living objects and/or objects of worship. I agree that most of the people on this site (including me) suffer from mental, psychological and relationship issues.
Most of us delude into this shit because of us giving up any hope of having a functional relationship in real life. In some case because of looks in others because of socioeconomical status in my case out of pure apathy and defeatism.
If you want to see what disdain looks like

You do know you just doxxed yourself hard, right?

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:49 am

Brettenwald wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:As a person who had Asuka as my waifu since 2018 I disagree that most of us think of our waifus as some sort of living objects and/or objects of worship. I agree that most of the people on this site (including me) suffer from mental, psychological and relationship issues.
Most of us delude into this shit because of us giving up any hope of having a functional relationship in real life. In some case because of looks in others because of socioeconomical status in my case out of pure apathy and defeatism.
If you want to see what disdain looks like

You do know you just doxxed yourself hard, right?

And? If you’ve asked me I would’ve told you my name, address and location IRL. It’s not like I’m afraid of anything…

by **Atheris** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:50 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Aikoland wrote:snip

As a person who had Asuka as my waifu since 2018 I disagree that most of us think of our waifus as some sort of living objects and/or objects of worship. I agree that most of the people on this site (including me) suffer from mental, psychological and relationship issues.
Most of us delude into this shit because of us giving up any hope of having a functional relationship in real life. In some case because of looks in others because of socioeconomical status in my case out of pure apathy and defeatism.
If you want to see what disdain looks like

I'm just saying dude, I love Asuka, too, but, uh... she's 14.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:53 am

Atheris wrote:I'm just saying dude, I love Asuka, too, but, uh... she's 14.

Where exactly does the stuff on the photo indicate that I love her in a way that’s a direct violation of the rules? (Excluding the hugging art but that’s from another manga where she’s 18). I’m not a [REDACTED] and never was.

12 March 2022

South Americanastan wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

Rule 34 of the internet: If it exists…

Nationstates is, unfortunately, not exempt from that rule.

I am utterly terrified for Alastair in this regard, honestly. And should probably be terrified for all of our other characters.

Aikoland wrote:
Northern Ateria wrote:Oh goodness, if their intent is just roleplaying their sexual fantasies with fictional characters they’ve just seen on their computer screens here…that is…depressing?

I don’t know what else to say other than this.

You want genuine depressing go to the r/waifuism subreddit.

Or actually maybe don't because I seriously think a lot of the people on that subreddit have genuine mental issues. Cause r/waifuism isn't some satire sub where you talk about your fave animu girls or whatever, it's full of people who genuinely believe they're in relationships with cartoon characters (and I say cartoon characters because, contrary to the sub name, it's not limited to anime girls, it can be any cartoon character). Saw a post on their where the OP seriously compared waifuism to a religion and insisted that they worship their waifu like Christians worship God, another post was someone worrying that they 'weren't good enough' for their SO (again, their 'SO' being a literal cartoon character), etc.

It's not cringe or embarrassing, it's just sad and depressing. It's fine to like fictional characters, I think we all do, and there's no denying that there are cartoon characters designed to be attractive/sexy, but it's another thing to delude yourself into believing you're actually in a relationship with a cartoon.

They...actually believe...themselves...to be...in a relationship...with FICTIONAL CHARACTERS!?
How does one get to this point?

Waifus are fictional characters, not gods; worshipping them to the extent that you want to genuinely please them is unhealthy (and technically paganism). Yes, we all have some fictional characters whom we adore, but it's not like we want to SLEEP WITH THEM or think that dating them will ever be anything beyond fantasy. We are probably dealing with a mixture of really depressed and desperate incels and people who genuinely suffer from delusions, both of which really suck. Mental health is no joke. (No, being celibate is not bad in my opinion, but meh, I'm still kind of young. Maybe my views will change later in life/when I'm married in the future.) This subreddit seems to be enabling all of these negative things and generating a source of potentially detrimental hyperfixations. (Now that I think about it, there are probably a few people on this subreddit who are autistic, which isn't a bad thing in and of itself; from what I understand, individuals with autism can develop strong interests in specific areas, so it's feasible that someone has a fixation on a waifu.)

Now, back to the subject of mental health. We're dealing with a wide range of Internet randos (I'm guessing; not gonna check out that subreddit) who collectively have a slew of things like depression, delusions, and probably OCD to an extent. If they do have these things, asking for help is the best thing they can do instead of worsening things via the Internet. For many of them, it's probably just an escape from the real world, but if it goes far beyond that, then yes, they probably need professional help.

As for my fellow NSers, if any of y'all are struggling with mental health, don't be afraid to reach out (to people in real life who can help you). Asking for help is the best thing you can do for yourself when it comes to mental health issues.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:56 am

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Now, back to the subject of mental health. We're dealing with a wide range of Internet randos (I'm guessing; not gonna check out that subreddit) who collectively have a slew of things like depression, delusions, and probably OCD to an extent. If they do have these things, asking for help is the best thing they can do instead of worsening things via the Internet. For many of them, it's probably just an escape from the real world, but if it goes far beyond that, then yes, they probably need professional help.

As for my fellow NSers, if any of y'all are struggling with mental health, don't be afraid to reach out (to people in real life who can help you). Asking for help is the best thing you can do for yourself when it comes to mental health issues.

Professional help in some cases is useless. My case is a good example because I’ve attended multiple therapists and psychologists to no use- it’s been only getting worse. Talking to your family is too and I can’t talk to friends because I don’t have them. I think most of the people on the subreddit could relate.

by **Atheris** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:01 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:
Atheris wrote:I'm just saying dude, I love Asuka, too, but, uh... she's 14.

Where exactly does the stuff on the photo indicate that I love her in a way that’s a direct violation of the rules? (Excluding the hugging art but that’s from another manga where she’s 18). I’m not a [REDACTED] and never was.

I mean, it's a little creepy is all I'm saying. Maybe it's just the surprising amount of pedophilia in the Ace Attorney (and Evangelion) fandoms but you shouldn't be terribly surprised when someone's weirded out by it.

Also "she's 18 in that" isn't really a good argument. I know that's not what you were going for, and at least it's not sexual, but saying it's okay for a character to be in sexual situations now because she's overage despite her appearance literally not changing (such as Asuka in the Rebuilds or Pearl Fey in DD, they literally get one minor change and don't change at all. In Asuka's case it's the eyepatch and in Pearl's case she literally just gets taller, no design changes at all and it sucks ahem) is a really bad argument. Again, I know that's not what you were going for, but it's just weird. And wrong.

by **Laka Strolistandiler** » Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:03 am

Atheris wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:Where exactly does the stuff on the photo indicate that I love her in a way that’s a direct violation of the rules? (Excluding the hugging art but that’s from another manga where she’s 18). I’m not a [REDACTED] and never was.

I mean, it's a little creepy is all I'm saying. Maybe it's just the surprising amount of pedophilia in the Ace Attorney (and Evangelion) fandoms but you shouldn't be terribly surprised when someone's weirded out by it.

Also "she's 18 in that" isn't really a good argument. I know that's not what you were going for, and at least it's not sexual, but saying it's okay for a character to be in sexual situations now because she's overage despite her appearance literally not changing (such as Asuka in the Rebuilds or Pearl Fey in DD, they literally get one minor change and don't change at all. In Asuka's case it's the eyepatch and in Pearl's case she literally just gets taller, no design changes at all and it sucks ahem) is a really bad argument. Again, I know that's not what you were going for, but it's just weird. And wrong.

Look, the art doesn’t display me having anything related to sexual or any form of intimacy with her. I know my limits, comrade and would’ve never gotten in a sexual relationship with an underage because morality.

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